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Old 01-28-2007, 02:27 AM
Lumberg Lumberg is offline
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Understanding Information and Informants

Just to add my observations to the Information Informants asspect of Civics.

4 Types of Information:
Blackmail
Plots
Trend
Arcana


Each Type has different Tiers awarded determined by the Dip skill of opponent:
(This is listed in the Infomation's description -- Each Tier share the same Icon)
Crude <= 100
Significant 125 - 200
Essential 225 - 300
Vital 325 - 400
Unequalled 425 - 500

Each Tier has 3 Rarities
Heresay:: common
Rumor :: uncommon
Evidence :: rare

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Informants will accept 1 Type of Information only. You must have atleast minimum required for 1 reward of the Tier/Rarity combination. Heresay will get you the low end of the tiers clothing. While Evidence has a rare chance to get you a Rare (Yellow) equipment for the tier. Evidence has netted me the most 1-Time-Clicky Items, but the Rare equipment is well worth the hassle.

Get 1 Reward per
Heresay x 7
Rumor x 5
Evidence x 3

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Rewards:
Blackmail - Gloves / Neck / 1-Time-Items
Plots - Pants / Prestige Boost 1-Time-Items
Trends - Boots / Earrings / 1-Time-Items
Arcana - Chest / Belts / 1-Time-Items

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The most likely Type of Info you will get is based off the conversation(this is not strictly, but like 90%, with some other Types rarely)

Type -------------- Conversation --- Color Blocked
Backmail ------------- Gossip ------- Reason Blocked
Plots ----------------- Interview ----- None Blocked
Trends --------------- Incite -------- Flatter Blocked
Arcane --------------- Convince ----- Inspire Blocked
Gag (Vender Trash) --- Entertain ----- Demand Blocked

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Informants: and where they are:
CHECK THIS FIRST >>> KOS LIST
Blackmail - Ahgram, Halgarad, Hathor Zhi, and Martok
Plots - Bordinar's Cleft, Khal, and Tanvu
Trends - Ahgram, Tawar Galan, Lomshir, Mekalia, and Rindol Field
Arcana - Ahgram, Ca'ial Brael, Mekalia, Hathor Zhi, and Leth Nurae

**Patch Notes** - There are now more brokers available who will accept crude and significant information. Arcana, Blackmail, Trends, and Plots brokers have been added to Namsoong and Dark Horse DownÂ’s Racetrack. Arcana, Blackmail, and Trends brokers have been added to Tawar Galan. And a Blackmail Broker has been added to Tursh.

**Patch Notes**- There is now a Blackmail, Plots, Trends, and Arcana Informant in Three Rivers/ThemnwarÂ’s Shield and VeskalÂ’s Exchange for your information trading needs!

**Patch Notes**- There are now Blackmail, Plots, Trends, and Arcana Informants in Tawar Galan, Qa Riverbank, and Dark Horse Downs for your Information trading needs!
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Detailed Locations

Wonderful Listing in Wiki here
Please keep it updated with changes.

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I will be UPDATING this as I observe more and people post corrections.

Last edited by Lumberg : 11-29-2007 at 04:28 PM.
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Old 01-28-2007, 05:17 AM
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Each Broker gives out 2 different types of wearable gear as well as a "Boobie"prize.
Of the 2 types of gear, one is Common reward and the other is Uncommon. Boobie prize seems to be on the Common reward table.
For example, The Arcana broker will have Chest gear available as the Common reward a Waist item as the Uncommon reward.(the arcana broker actually does give out those 2 types of gear so you can list them as rewards from Arcana broker)
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Old 01-28-2007, 05:18 AM
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And to lessen confusion with our Auction Brokers, we have renamed our Brokers to Informants.

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Old 01-28-2007, 07:15 AM
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Any chance of an NPC or Guard to actually show us the direction of the Brokers?

Diplomacy Focal Point mostly just shows the Trainers...
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Old 01-28-2007, 03:48 PM
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In Ahgram, the blackmail informant is at -36688, -10951, 1820.

I only found him because I've got a load of trends I'm trying to offload.

Found the trends Informant. he's at -37269, -21763, 1820. i'm assuming that the 1820 os an elevation.

Course, i don't have the 10 of any one thing to trigger him, even though when all is xonsidered, i've got 26 items about trends.

1 Significant Rumor
4 Crude Evidence
7 Crude Hearsay
1 Vital Hearsay
7 Crude Rumor
2 Vital Rumor
1 Vital Evidence
1 Essential Hearsay
3 Significant Hearsay
1 Essential Rumor
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:23 PM
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OMG thank you! all 3 cities I have for Blackmail... i'm KOS... I was going nuts.
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Old 01-28-2007, 07:16 PM
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OMG thank you! all 3 cities I have for Blackmail... i'm KOS... I was going nuts.
You're welcome.

Not sure if you're KoS their either, though.

and if you look at the guts of my previous message, you'll see that 2 other Tiers of information are Essential and Vital.

I only found that out after beating Sa'id at civic diplomacy in Khal (he's a 400 diplomat), when I was in my low 60s.

I think (as much as I hate it) that the AI could use some conditional branching, such that if he has a card in his deck that can be played, even if it's not in the order that it is normally played, it should be played, if only to screw with the diplomat's mind.
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Old 01-28-2007, 09:07 PM
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Anyone know of any Informants near Ca'ial Brael? I have lots of info piling up here, but can't find one.
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Old 01-28-2007, 09:22 PM
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I'm looking for more basic information.

What is an informant? How do I know how much of each type of information I possess? How to I get information from an informant? By doing a parley?

What is a broker? What is the purpose of turning information in to the broker? To get stuff? Are we talking about the kind of useless trash that a crafter gets from a work order or something else?

What is a "diplomatic center"? I've got an item at the end of my diplo quest that says I can turn it in to a diplomatic center for points but I don't know what the purpose of those points would be nor do I know what a diplomatic center is, where it is located, and how I would turn an item into it if I did know where it is and what it was.

And in general about civic diplomacy, all I see is a list of types of parley when I go to someone for civic diplomacy with no explanation of what they do. Is the design intent of the game that I guess?

I've also noticed that every single civic diplo that I have attempted, my opponent starts with only needing one more influence to with the parley. Is this normal?? That pretty severely limits the strategy options if it is. It basically means I have to play influence fast and early every time and hope he doesn't have any cards that are strong enough to tilt the influence in his favor. Are they all like this?
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Old 01-28-2007, 10:18 PM
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I'm with Rinweth, I can't find the arcana informant in CB yet, is he in?

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